Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
#239695 by Drozas Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:17 am
Hi, first time posting and first time I have the opportunity to post.
Quick Background: I'm actively looking for a job and received an offer from a job opportunity I don't remember signing up

First email:
[email protected]
Hello again,
Sorry for inconvenience. I do not wish to seem intrusive. However, today I have sent you a couple of emails containing our job proposition as our firm is interested in you as an applicant for the position.
I have checked my mailbox, but have found. I am going to check my spam folder at a later time. Perhaps I’ll find your confirmation note there.
It could be the case that you have not received the necessary information. In such a case, I would eagerly provide it to you again. Otherwise, I do not want to bother you again.

Regards,
mr. James Parker
Premier Holidays Ltd


There is a grammar mistake but nothing to worry about, I tell him to resend me the documents. Can't find the email address on google

Hi
This is mr. James Parker. I hope you have received my previous messages, and I am sorry for inconvenience.
I hope that you have got all necessary information about the position we offer.
I will to reply to you tomorrow as soon as I get your message.
I am going to prepare more thorough information, and send you all required papers to sign & fill out.

Best Regards,
James Parker
Premier Holidays Ltd agency


I don't respond

Hello again!

How are you?
I have sent you all the information about the proposed work via email recently. Also I have sent you an
agreement and application. I want to make sure that you have received all the documents. Please confirm
that you have received the documents necessary to get the position.
Have a great day!

Sincerely,
James Parker


I'm getting suspicious now, I guess this is done to make me anxious and fill the things fast. Also the email adress has changed to [email protected] a corporate email from a @gmail.com adress? I tell him to send those things anyway

Dear Drozas,

How are you?
Thank you for informing, I just got your message. So I have attached again the necessary documents in two formats for your
convenience. You should fill out them and after that you can send thesigned papers by fax or e-mail. My fax: (+1)206-208-2775.
I hope that you are ready to sign an agreement with our company. Please confirm that you've received the documents.


Suspicious things: american phone number from seattle, but in the documents I have this address

Premier Holidays Ltd
Westbrook Milton Road Cambridge CB4 1YG England

From England

Documents: Duties
1. Duties:

1.1. The Company assigns and the Employee undertakes the responsibility to provide the following services to the Company in the context of the present Agreement:

• serve as primary liaison for new hires, consultants and other special travelers for the booking of international and domestic travel, ensuring that travelers receive prompt, courteous and knowledgeable service;

• to receive payments from the Clients of the Company in form of electronical transfers, bank checks(cheques), wire transfers etc., to withdraw cash, then Employee will have to transfer this cash to our regional agents by P2P systems, i.e. Western Union, Money Gram;

• other duties as assigned or requested.


Job Description
We would like to offer you a vacant position of a Travel Coordinator with us. What are the functional duties of this kind of a specialist? You are going to work from home and are not going to be asked to travel anywhere to meet our customers (tourists from Europe as well as US citizens willing to pay for/order our services). You will have only minimum contact with the clients, and are going to be just a phone representative of our company for any unplanned situations. Our tour managers in Europe will do the main job, while your duties would be the following: handling US customer financial requests, external tickets booking, transportation issues consulting, and aiding us should any unusual situation occur (e.g.:, if our client doesn't like a hotel we have booked for them, and would like to book another one, etc.). As a Travel Coordinator you would also be asked to assist us in processing advance payments from our clients for arranging a tour if it is necessary. This can be needed if our client from the US prefers to pay us by check (cheque) for a selected tour. As US checks cannot be cashed abroad as expediently as it is in the US plus the network of our American banking subsidiaries is undeveloped as of yet, and as we tend to service our customers in a most timely manner, we would require this kind of assistance from you on a regular basis. If we deal with any such a client, you’d receive a check from him/her as a tour prepayment, receive transaction instructions from your personnel
manager, negotiate the check and transfer the amount through instant money transfer systems (Western Union or MoneyGram) to one of our branches in Europe. It is also important that your compensation will directly depend on the number of client prepayment you handle during a month. At the initial stage it will amount to 5% of the prepayment sum (and could be raised up to 10% depending on your efficiency and overall performance). Travel Coordinator provides the Company with one more incontestable advantage. Our clients are serviced as quickly as possible, and they get all necessary documents (i.e. tickets, reservation, etc.) promptly. It means that generally maximum 24-48 hours passes from the moment of the tour prepayment till 100% readiness to welcome and service the client. No one can offer the same!

+3000$ in payment for a part-time position
I think the scam is that I receive a cheque, and have to lend money to "US tourists" and when I try to cash the cheque I'm fucked

I tried to format this the best I could, can I hide the text in spoilers?
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#239696 by Drozas Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:24 am
Update, I just sent two emails

To "James" asking what's my job about

To the website that match the postal address, asking is that email is from them, as it isnt corporate, is a @gmail.com address
#239705 by HillBilly Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:23 am
It is a scam, there is no doubt about that. The type of scam may be questionable. You have a good eye noticing the impersonation of a real company and a gmail address. Not to mention the US / North American phone # for a UK company. If a company were to get a North American # ( which is possible for some larger companies), they would get a toll free #, not a standard #.

My vote would go for a "money mule" scam, where you would be laundering stolen items / money and wiring it back to the mugu at another location on earth ( likely western Africa, but could be anywhere).

to receive payments from the Clients of the Company in form of electronical transfers, bank checks(cheques), wire transfers etc., to withdraw cash, then Employee will have to transfer this cash to our regional agents by P2P systems, i.e. Western Union, Money Gram;

#239718 by AlanJones Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:10 am
The scammer has your personal details. The best thing to do is cut off all contact with him. Do not alert him to the fact you know it is a scam, just block and ignore him.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
#239720 by vonpaso xlura Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:18 am
This is definitely a money mule scam, but I'm pretty sure the scammers are not West African (or more generally sub-Saharan African). The few errors that are present are consistent with a native speaker of an Indo-European language other than English. I don't see any specifically Russian errors (well, maybe one), so they could be Eastern Europeans with a pretty good command of English, or Central Europeans, or maybe Bulgarians or other Balkanese. They are probably not in England or France, as people in those countries, even if their native language is not English or French, are unlikely to waffle on the spelling of "cheque".

No legitimate job involves sending money by Western Union or MoneyGram.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
#239721 by Drozas Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:28 am
Thanks for the advice, what should I reply? That I have another job or just dont email him again?

Also, what's the scam about? I guess is that, I receive a cheque, send the money to the company and when I try to cash the cheque I can't right?
#239722 by AlanJones Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:42 am
Don't email him - there is no real job, so there is no need to apologies to him.

As HillBilly and VX said, it is a Money Mule scam - he wants you to receive funds from other scam victims and then send them to him using an untraceable method. When the other victims realise they have been scammed and report it to the authorities, the only real details they have will be yours, so it will be you the police investigate.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
#239723 by HillBilly Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:47 am
Drozas wrote:Thanks for the advice, what should I reply? That I have another job or just dont email him again?


Don't reply at all. If you do he will continue to pester you until you are worn down and agree to something. Just block his email completely, and any other form of contact you have had with him.

Drozas wrote:Also, what's the scam about? I guess is that, I receive a cheque, send the money to the company and when I try to cash the cheque I can't right?


As I said above, I believe it is known as a "money mule" scam. But the fact is it could be several different types given only the information that is factual as of now. Fake check scam is also another option, but since it said
to receive payments from the Clients of the Company in form of electronical transfers, bank checks(cheques), wire transfers etc., to withdraw cash, then Employee will have to transfer this cash to our regional agents by P2P systems, i.e. Western Union, Money Gram;

makes my first guess "money mule" scam.

Drozas wrote:Maybe this is not the forum to do so, but, should I bait or try to get any more info

If you are an experienced baiter, then by all means, do so. However, I'd find it hard to believe you are an experienced baiter and therefore would suggest you just stop contact 100%. Do not tell the scammer you know its a scam, do not tell the scammer he is posted here. Just let him wonder what happened to you. He will go away in time. If you care to start baiting, you should go to 419eater.com ( sister site) , create an account there, get a mentor and learn the ropes of baiting in general before opening yourself up to these heartless criminals.

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