Hello from scammer [email protected]!

**SCAMMER POST - MADE BY SCAMMER [email protected]**

<removed by dotti> all of this emails are fraud use to fraud and hack accounts

if you ever had a pet he comes this way

Dear Pet Lover,

I saw your classified advert offering your baby pet for free.

I am a representative of a local charity that sources companion pets for the elderly and disabled and would be interested in seeing if we could obtain your pet to place with a worthy pet lover.

Please do get back to me if this is something you would consider.

Kind regards

Pets for Charity Local Area Co-Ordintor


ADMIN NOTE: This post was made by an angry scammer. He is angry because his scamming information was posted here, and he thought he was clever enough to get revenge on the person who published that information by posting him here. Sadly (for the scammer) he is not at all clever enough to pull it off, and we recognized it for what it is. The scammer's email address is [email protected] We have left this post here to show you just how low these scammers really are. - dotti

[AlanJones]

I have investigated these accounts and they look legitimate to me, so please provide your evidence that they are used to "hack accounts".

[AlanJones]

I see you came back and edited your post, but failed to provide any evidence of fraud/hacking/etc.

I have therefore flagged your post for a moderator to review as you are making accusations without backing them up.

Welcome SCAMMER [email protected] !

We really do appreciate you stopping by to visit. Unfortunately, your post wasn't strictly accurate, but don't worry--I have taken steps to correct that. I'm sure that Alan Jones will provide some more info on the MANY animals you are pretending to sell--I see you are pretending to sell ragdoll kittens, bulldog puppies, yorkies, and more.

Please feel free to come back and share more of your scams any time you would like.

[AlanJones]

Thank you Dotti for revealing this poster for what he really is.

Anyone reading his initial post will see mention of "Charity" in the email he posted. That's right this scammer was trying to scam a charity that provides pets for the elderly and disabled. More than that though - the Charity is run by a Church. Coming from West Africa as "macktanny" no doubt does, I am sure his family are probably religious - I wonder what they would make of the way their son/grandson/cousin chooses to "earn his living".

Here is a link to a sample of the many adverts he has placed on classifieds sites around the world viewtopic.php?f=36&t=80159.

And here is a link to another of the email addresses that he uses to scam his victims viewtopic.php?f=36&t=80122 (this thread will give some idea of what a vile little creature "macktanny" (or "Taylor Gilpson") really is and the way he abuses a member of the Church.

Wow, so scammers themselves come and set up accounts here?? I have also noticed one or 2 victims on a thread that seem a bit suspicious to me, is it possible for scammers to come on this site pretending they are victims?

It's fairly common. If you notice such posts, hit the exclamation point link to report them to the moderators.

It does happen, but we are typically quick to identify them (no matter how clever they think they are.)

We do see victims from all all different backgrounds and locations, and sometimes when a post looks suspicious, it is due to cultural/language differences, or a victim's (sometimes not correct) beliefs. Unfortunately, we also get victims here from time to time that are so completely hooked that they come here to protest/argue the innocence of the scammer they believe in. They are still victims--they just don't know and/or won't accept it.
Occasionally a scammer will sign up to post about another scammer (the phrase "no honor among thieves" comes to mind.) If the post is accurate, we will allow it to stay, even if it was made by a scammer.

As VX said, you can always use the report post function to flag anything suspicious for review, just in case we missed it.

I see...

I was a bit suspicious of a victim who seemed to fall in love with scammers each time, even after you had convinced them that they are scammers, they kept falling for such people and telling you maybe they werent scammers after all

It could have been that they were just extremely naive, but then i got suspcious when they said about sending the money to the scammer, it wasnt their money but a bag of money they happened to find in an empty building?? Things just didnt add up. I will see if I can find them and report them. Do I need to give a reason why i think they are a scammer and need to be reported, i wonder if its enough that their story doesnt really add up and the fact they keep falling in love with scammers each time? When you say about 'victims beliefs', do you mean that some victims keep on falling in love with scammers and even try to defend them?

Just wanted to add, this victim also changed user names on this board. Now it could be they did it out of fear that the scammer will find them on here, unless they'd been banned once and decided to register again

There isn't normally any good reason for anyone to pretend to be a victim, though nothing is impossible.

It can often be quite humiliating to admit to being duped and it takes courage to admit it publicly even if anonymously. We've all seen news items on the elderly who become deluged with scam mail offers who wind up with their property absolutely swamped with piles of paper. The reasons why this happens to victims can be because they're elderly, or perhaps they have personality or psychological problems. I have indeed spoken to people who have repeatedly fallen for new scams after having apparently understood that previous similar offers are scams. Unless the victim has malicious intent it's not usually necessary to question the victim's motives, especially as most scams follow unimaginative templates that are clear to most people.

My own elderly mother is vulnerable, not because she is isn't clever or because she has any mental age-related problem. Unfortunately she is trusting and that makes her an ideal target.

Thank you for clearing it up It was just something about the way the victim got hold of the money to send to the scammers which didnt sit right with me, but I guess anything is possible. I guess I've become a little too suspicious of people for my own good I'm also wondering, as I'm new to this site and how everything works, where can I report scammer's email addresses? I have not replied to any of the scam emails, i just save them to look them up and post their addresses online, and this site is just what I need.

[AlanJones]

The best place to post any scams that you receive are in the specific sub-board relating to that particular type of scam.

Please post the full email you receive, including the headers (remove any information that identifies you).

Blanky,

It is important to understand that for some victims, the scam is an addiction that is essentially no different than a drug or alcohol addiction. There is often no limit to the warped explanations that addicts will use to justify their habit or why their actions were fine, or why they don't have a problem. Addicts will sometimes lie, cheat, even steal to support their habit. Often they are lying to themselves as much as they lie to others. They have to, because their minds simply can't accept the fact that they have made such a huge mistake, or that the dream they have clung to for months or even years is a lie.

Unfortunately, we have had seen our share of victims who have created a fake reality and attempt to pull us into that reality. We have had victims claim to us or to family members that they are still in contact with their scammers because they are working with the FBI to catch them. (The FBI would never have a vulnerable civilian keep corresponding with a criminal.) In reality it is because they can't let go of the fake relationship or deal. We have had victims who claimed they met their scammer face to face, because they just can't admit that they sent a large amount of money to someone they never met (sometimes a victim does meet the scammer face to face but that is extremely rare, and we know for certain that some of those claims were lies) We have seen victims who have claimed they talked to their bank or the business who shipped them stolen merchandise, and they were assured their actions were legitimate, because they could not face the fact that they unknowingly became part of a criminal conspiracy. And we have had several victims who have greatly understated their losses, or claimed that they "almost" sent money, only to find out later that they did send it but didn't want to feel judged. (We also see many who do realize the truth before sending money as well, though.)

And we have had a few serial victims, including the victim you mention, who are ideal targets because they hold onto a completely unrealistic dream. They know on some level that they are falling for one scam after another, but can't accept it, and will say just about anything, true or not, in an attempt to convince us (and therefore themselves) that they are not behaving foolishly. Sometimes we do have to ban them, because we can't have them giving false hope that will encourage other victims to believe in the scams. That particular victim is not the only one. For example, we had another here who fell for one scammer after another, all using horrible English, ridiculous stories, and photos of porn girls. He was banned more than once for leading others astray and encouraging them to believe that porn girls really are sitting in Africa waiting for some strange man to take them away! Last time I checked that victim's facebook page, he had updated his status to claim that he had just married a different porn girl. He simply could not accept that a middle aged man with a low-paying job living in the rural south is not going to magically catch the eye of some gorgeous 20-something porn girl, and for some reason he felt the need to "prove" to us that he was right as well.

So is the person you are referring to a victim? Yes. Did he really find a bag of money? Probably not. But it makes him feel like he is (and looks) less of fool if he lost money that wasn't his own. And it's not really worth arguing as it won't help him or others anyway.

Thanks for clearing it up Dotti, now I understand a lot better how some victims can be.