new scam??

[lucianorueda]

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[Dotti]

Domain Name:AMSTERDAMCENTERSOUTHCONDOMINIUM.INFO
Created On:20-May-2010 06:29:14 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Jul-2010 20:34:50 UTC
Expiration Date:20-May-2011 06:29:14 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. dba PublicDomainRegistry.com (R159-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:PP-SP-001
Registrant Name:Domain Admin
Registrant Organization:PrivacyProtect.or

So created less than 3 months ago, registered for one year. Definitely suspicious. Privacy protected, again another red flag.

Domain Name: ASSETDEBTCOLLECTION.COM
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Name Server: NS1.VODIEN.COM
Name Server: NS2.VODIEN.COM
Name Server: NS3.VODIEN.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 20-may-2010
Creation Date: 20-may-2010
Expiration Date: 20-may-2011

Created the same day, also less than 3 months ago, also only registered for a year. Even bigger red flag!

So I checked UK companies house (where the assetdebtcollection.com business is supposedly registered). Here's the listing of names where it should be. http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/eb84d ... 509#result What a surprise--it's not there!!!

So the verdict is: STAY AWAY!

[Dotti]

A few other notes:

The debt collection site states this:

Our years of success are supported by our Customer Relationship Services

Again interesting since they are only 3 months old.

Also, on both sites, the icons for worldpay, etc. a just an image, with no links, and there is actually no evidence they actually offer payment through any of these services!

EDIT TO ADD:

Can you post any emails you have received from either site (just remove your own info first?) They will help provide our fake site killers with evidence so they can get those sites taken down.

[Fred Winston]

^ Now that you know it's a scam, you should cut off all contact with them, especially since they have your real-life info. Ignore their calls and emails. Once they see that you won't be sending any money, they'll leave you alone.

I'm glad you were able to find us by doing a bit of research! Google is an incredible resource for checking up on things of this nature that you may find suspicious - if you're in any doubt, do a search.

[lucianorueda]

Content removed by dotti due to ongoing investigation.

[Michael]

I don't have a lot of time so please forgive me my short post; I'm sure someone will come along and add more information.

Both Web pages are offline now, so I cant see then any more... is this bacause of my post in this forum??!! wow!!!

Indeed, one of our site killers took care of it, they won't come back.

It's fairly logical that they claim to be real, after all, they will never admit they are scammers, especially if they feel that their possible vic (you) still somewhat believe in their story. They will try anything to suck you back in.

About the company registration number: that doesn't prove a thing. Yes, it's the number of a company called Greenstar Capital PTE LTD. Yes, that company is legitimate. But the only people claiming they are part of the company are the scammers themselves.

There were several signs on their sites which showed us they were not telling the truth.

You have to make a small click in your mind: By nature we all assume people tell the truth, with scammers you have to assume all they tell are lies.

[GomerPyle]

First she threatened me with report me to the police because "my slanders has tarnished her reputation"

It's always useful when the person threatening you identifies themselves as a witless moron. (Oops did I slander them too )

Slander is a civil issue and the police do not handle civil matters. There is no point doing business with someone who has no concept of the legal process.

I can't understand what a debt recovery agent has to do with the renting/letting of an apartment.

[lucianorueda]

removed

[GomerPyle]

My suspicion ucianorueda, is that fictitious debt recovery agent identities are often used in other scams, ones offering to recover funds for solicitors and other companies. So, far from being reassuring as you mention, it has the opposite effect. It indicates that the people behind this are probably involved in many different types of scam.

[GomerPyle]

They're back and they're grumpy

http://www.assetdebtcollection.asia/index.php

It's a one page effort with the usual skype phone contact numbers only.

Domain ID:D1471704-ASIA
Domain Name:ASSETDEBTCOLLECTION.ASIA
Domain Create Date:18-May-2010 08:24:08 UTC
Domain Expiration Date:18-May-2011 08:24:08 UTC
Domain Last Updated Date:17-Jul-2010 20:50:05 UTC

Created by:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com R28-ASIA (303)
Last Updated by Registrar:ASIA Registry R6-ASIA (9996)
Sponsoring Registrar:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com R28-ASIA (303)
Registration Agent ID:
Registration Agent Name:
Registration Agent Organization:
Registration Agent Address:
Registration Agent Address2:
Registration Agent Address3:
Registration Agent City:
Registration Agent State/Province:
Registration Agent Country/Economy:
Registration Agent Postal Code:
Registration Agent Phone:
Registration Agent Phone Ext.:
Registration Agent FAX:
Registration Agent FAX Ext.:
Registration Agent E-mail:
Maintainer URL:
Domain Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:DI_11573814
Registrant Name:m mouline
Registrant Organization:mouline management ltd
Registrant Address:borssenburgplein 135
Registrant Address2:
Registrant Address3:
Registrant City:amsterdam
Registrant State/Province:amsterdam
Registrant Country/Economy:NL
Registrant Postal Code:1078 WB
Registrant Phone:+31.031625384848
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant E-mail:[email protected]
Administrative ID:DI_11573814
Administrative Name:m mouline
Administrative Organization:mouline management ltd
Administrative Address:borssenburgplein 135
Administrative Address2:
Administrative Address3:
Administrative City:amsterdam
Administrative State/Province:amsterdam
Administrative Country/Economy:NL
Administrative Postal Code:1078 WB
Administrative Phone:+31.031625384848
Administrative Phone Ext.:
Administrative FAX:
Administrative FAX Ext.:
Administrative E-mail:[email protected]
Technical ID:directi_1028
Technical Name:.ASIA Domain Manager
Technical Organization:PDR Domains Solutions Private Limited
Technical Address:101/102, Osia Friendship,
Technical Address2:Gaothan Lane No. 4, Andheri (West)
Technical Address3:
Technical City:Mumbai
Technical State/Province:Maharashtra
Technical Country/Economy:IN
Technical Postal Code:400058
Technical Phone:+91.2266797550
Technical Phone Ext.:
Technical FAX:
Technical FAX Ext.:
Technical E-mail:[email protected]
Billing ID:DI_11573814
Billing Name:m mouline
Billing Organization:mouline management ltd
Billing Address:borssenburgplein 135
Billing Address2:
Billing Address3:
Billing City:amsterdam
Billing State/Province:amsterdam
Billing Country/Economy:NL
Billing Postal Code:1078 WB
Billing Phone:+31.031625384848
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing E-mail:[email protected]
CED ID:directi_1028
CED CC Locality:IN
CED State/Province:
CED City:
CED Type of Legal Entity:Corporations or Companies
CED Type (Other):
CED Form of Identification:Certificate of Incorporation or equivalent business registration certificate
CED Form of ID (Other):
CED Identification Number:U 72900 MH 2004 PTC 144633

Nameservers:NS1.VODIEN.COM
Nameservers:NS2.VODIEN.COM
Nameservers:NS3.VODIEN.COM

[GomerPyle]

Better than a soap opera ?

The real time evolution of domain registrations. Whoever would ever have thought they could be interesting ?

This is all information in the public domain.

Web cache version (snapshot taken). of http://www.assetdebtcollection.asia - currently being "re-designed".

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=uk

Domain ID:D1471704-ASIA
Domain Name:ASSETDEBTCOLLECTION.ASIA
Domain Create Date:18-May-2010 08:24:08 UTC
Domain Expiration Date:18-May-2011 08:24:08 UTC
Domain Last Updated Date:10-Sep-2010 11:27:19 UTC
Last Transferred Date:
IPR Name:
IPR Number:
IPR CC Locality:
IPR Applied:
IPR Registered:
IPR Class:
IPR form:
IPR Entitlement:
IPR Type:
Created by:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com R28-ASIA (303)
Last Updated by Registrar:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com R28-ASIA (303)
Sponsoring Registrar:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com R28-ASIA (303)
Registration Agent ID:
Registration Agent Name:
Registration Agent Organization:
Registration Agent Address:
Registration Agent Address2:
Registration Agent Address3:
Registration Agent City:
Registration Agent State/Province:
Registration Agent Country/Economy:
Registration Agent Postal Code:
Registration Agent Phone:
Registration Agent Phone Ext.:
Registration Agent FAX:
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Registration Agent E-mail:
Maintainer URL:
Domain Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:DI_12463230
Registrant Name:Mr. Goorts
Registrant Organization:Greenstar Capital Pte Ltd - division AssetDebtCollection
Registrant Address:37A Hong Kong Street
Registrant Address2:
Registrant Address3:
Registrant City:Singapore
Registrant State/Province:Not Applicable
Registrant Country/Economy:SG
Registrant Postal Code:059676
Registrant Phone:+65.65333506
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+65.65333239
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant E-mail:[email protected]
Administrative ID:DI_12463230
Administrative Name:Mr. Goorts
Administrative Organization:Greenstar Capital Pte Ltd - division AssetDebtCollection
Administrative Address:37A Hong Kong Street
Administrative Address2:
Administrative Address3:
Administrative City:Singapore
Administrative State/Province:Not Applicable
Administrative Country/Economy:SG
Administrative Postal Code:059676
Administrative Phone:+65.65333506
Administrative Phone Ext.:
Administrative FAX:+65.65333239
Administrative FAX Ext.:
Administrative E-mail:[email protected]
Technical ID:directi_1028
Technical Name:.ASIA Domain Manager
Technical Organization:PDR Domains Solutions Private Limited
Technical Address:101/102, Osia Friendship,
Technical Address2:Gaothan Lane No. 4, Andheri (West)
Technical Address3:
Technical City:Mumbai
Technical State/Province:Maharashtra
Technical Country/Economy:IN
Technical Postal Code:400058
Technical Phone:+91.2266797550
Technical Phone Ext.:
Technical FAX:
Technical FAX Ext.:
Technical E-mail:[email protected]
Billing ID:DI_12463230
Billing Name:Mr. Goorts
Billing Organization:Greenstar Capital Pte Ltd - division AssetDebtCollection
Billing Address:37A Hong Kong Street
Billing Address2:
Billing Address3:
Billing City:Singapore
Billing State/Province:Not Applicable
Billing Country/Economy:SG
Billing Postal Code:059676
Billing Phone:+65.65333506
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:+65.65333239
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing E-mail:[email protected]
CED ID:directi_1028
CED CC Locality:IN
CED State/Province:
CED City:
CED Type of Legal Entity:Corporations or Companies
CED Type (Other):
CED Form of Identification:Certificate of Incorporation or equivalent business registration certificate
CED Form of ID (Other):
CED Identification Number:U 72900 MH 2004 PTC 144633
Operations and Notifications ID:
Operations and Notifications Name:
Operations and Notifications Organization:
Operations and Notifications Address:
Operations and Notifications Address2:
Operations and Notifications Address3:
Operations and Notifications City:
Operations and Notifications State/Province:
Operations and Notifications Country/Economy:
Operations and Notifications Postal Code:
Operations and Notifications Phone:
Operations and Notifications Phone Ext.:
Operations and Notifications FAX:
Operations and Notifications FAX Ext.:
Operations and Notifications E-mail:
Nameservers:NS1.VODIEN.COM
Nameservers:NS2.VODIEN.COM
Nameservers:NS3.VODIEN.COM

This is the new registraction of the old and now defunct original website and I have a snapshot of it.

Update - it's popped back to life

http://www.assetdebtcollection.com/

Domain Name: ASSETDEBTCOLLECTION.COM

Status:LOCKED
Note: This Domain Name is currently Locked. In this status the domain
name cannot be transferred, hijacked, or modified. The Owner of this
domain name can easily change this status from their control panel.
This feature is provided as a security measure against fraudulent domain name hijacking.

Creation Date: 20-May-2010

Expiration Date: 20-May-2011

Domain servers in listed order:
ns3.vodien.com
ns2.vodien.com
ns1.vodien.com

Registrant:
Greenstar Capital Pte Ltd - division AssetDebtCollection
Mr. Goorts ([email protected])
37A HongKong Street
Singapore
Singapore,059676
SG
Tel. +65.65333506

Administrative Contact:

Greenstar Capital Pte Ltd - division AssetDebtCollection
Mr. Goorts ([email protected])
37A HongKong Street
Singapore
Singapore,059676
SG
Tel. +65.65333506

Technical Contact:

Greenstar Capital Pte Ltd - division AssetDebtCollection
Mr. Goorts ([email protected])
37A HongKong Street
Singapore
Singapore,059676
SG
Tel. +65.65333506

I must correct one bit of poor spelling on their websites.

They incorrectly spell their company name

An ACRA Registered company in Singapore [201016 075 D]
Assetdebtcollection is a trademark and division operated under G.Capital Pte. Ltd.

If you go to the Singapore Accounting and Regulatory Authority they confirm the spelling as it appears on both website registrations

201016075D
GREENSTAR CAPITAL PTE. LTD.
HONGKONG STREET...
Status :LIVE COMPANY

Looks a little bad if you can't spell your own company name on your websites, don't you think ?

I've also managed to get a doument from that authority but I won't publish until I can be assure that the person named is actually associated with the company.

This is all freely available public information.